Welcome to another episode of Carnegie Chats!

Please join our 12-year-old junior reporter Carnegie Johnson, who shares his chats with accomplished sports figures in fun and revealing audio episodes!

In this episode, Carnegie chats with basketball superstar and Los Angeles Clippers point guard Chris Paul, whose basketball accomplishments include an NCAA Consensus First-Team All-American selection, an NBA Rookie of the Year Award, six NBA All-Defensive First Team selections, nine NBA All Star selections, and two Olympic Gold Medals.

Chris Paul with Carnegie Johnson.

Chris Paul with Carnegie Johnson.


Carnegie is joined by Claude Johnson, historian and founder of the Black Fives Foundation, to lend historical views that link back to the Black Fives Era, and their relevance today.

The result is a glimpse at how Chris Paul’s experiences in the game are reminiscent of a Black Fives Era superstar, early African American basketball pioneer Hudson “Huddy” Oliver, a four-time winner of the Colored Basketball World Championship with three different teams — the Smart Set Athletic Club, the Washington 12 Streeters, and Howard University — and is also deserving of Hall of Fame recognition.

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Carnegie Johnson is a 12-year-old middle school honor roll student who plays basketball as a D1 AAU national championship winning point guard and football as a Pop Warner national championship winning running back.