Jerry Reinsdorf with Carnegie Johnson

Jerry Reinsdorf with Carnegie Johnson. (Bill Allen/Perception Photography)

Introducing a unique new podcast called Carnegie Chats by our 12-year-old junior reporter Carnegie Johnson, who shares his chats with accomplished sports figures in fun and revealing audio episodes!

These merge youthful insights and proven wisdom with historical perspectives from the Black Fives Era to educate, engage, and inspire in support of the Black Fives Foundation and its mission!

In this first episode, Carnegie chats with Jerry Reinsdorf, the innovative chairman and owner of the Chicago Bulls, who was recently enshrined into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.

Carnegie is joined by Claude Johnson, historian and founder of the Black Fives Foundation, to lend historical views that link back to the Black Fives Era, and their relevance today.

The result is a glimpse at how Reinsdorf’s wisdom and innovation follow in the footsteps of Chi-Town’s early African American basketball pioneers, teams like the Savoy Big Five, the Harlem Globetrotters, and the Chicago Crusaders.

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Carnegie Johnson is a 12-year-old middle school honor roll student who plays basketball as a D1 AAU national championship winning point guard and football as a Pop Warner national championship winning running back.