A Fascinating Survey: Who Counts Most In American History (What About Sports History?)


There’s a fascinating new survey by Smithsonian magazine that caught my eye this month.

Martin Luther King, Jr.The most famous American
in history.

It’s in the May 2008 issue, in an article called “Goodbye, Columbus” (who else had to read that book in high school?).

This survey “upends conventional wisdom about who counts in American history.”

The question was simple: Who are the most famous Americans in history, excluding presidents and first ladies?

Before I continue, let’s do the exercise. Go ahead and name your top 10, using the comments section below. (My list is there too.)

Survey creator Sam Wineburg, a Stanford University professor, writes:

A colleague and I recently put this question to 2,000 11th and 12th graders from all 50 states, curious to see whether they would name (as a great many educators had predicted) the likes of Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, Tupac Shakur, 50 Cent, Barry Bonds, Kanye West or any number of other hip-hop artists, celebrities or sports idols. To our surprise, the young people’s answers showed that whatever they were reading in their history classrooms, it wasn’t People magazine. Their top ten names were all bona fide historical figures.

To our even greater surprise, their answers pretty much matched those we gathered from 2,000 adults age 45 and over. From this modest exercise, we deduced that much of what we take for conventional wisdom about today’s youth might be conventional, but it is not wisdom. Maybe we’ve spent so much time ferreting out what kids don’t know that we’ve forgotten to ask what they do know.

So, what were the results?

Today’s Top Ten For Teens

Those named as the most famous Americans, excluding presidents and their wives, in a national poll of 2,000 11th and 12 graders:
1. Martin Luther King Jr.
2. Rosa Parks
3. Harriet Tubman
4. Susan B. Anthony
5. Benjamin Franklin
6. Amelia Earhart
7. Oprah Winfrey
8. Marilyn Monroe
9. Thomas Edison
10. Albert Einstein

You may raise your eyebrow. Or not. But note that a poll of 2,000 adults age 45 and over produced a list with only two differences—Betsy Ross and Henry Ford replaced Monroe and Einstein.

Wineburg points out:

For the record, our sample matched within a few percentage points the demographics of the 2000 U.S. Census: about 70 percent of our respondents were white, 13 percent African-American, 9 percent Hispanic, 7 percent Asian-American, 1 percent Native American.

The difference between adults and high schoolers?

Eight of the top ten names were identical. (Instead of Monroe and Einstein, adults listed Betsy Ross and Henry Ford.) Among both kids and adults, neither region nor gender made much difference.

As my 3-year-old would say, “What tha?!”

I’m very pleasantly surprised, aren’t you?

Julius Erving and Michael JordanErving (l.) and Jordan
both make my sports list.

My first thought is, “Future, we’re here!”

Does this change what you thought you knew?

Doesn’t this help you focus more on what makes all of us similar rather than what makes us different? Doesn’t this feel good about the direction our country’s going?

Isn’t it true that if you look for similarities, you find more of them?  That’s the Law of Attraction at work.  It’s also the Copenghagen Interpretation, which I mentioned before, at work.

Meanwhile, I had to start wondering … what about sports history?

Who are the most famous Americans in sports history, excluding owners and coaches?

I added my list below.  Go ahead and add your own sports list to your comment now too.

(Photos courtesy of the Library of Congress and Getty Images.)

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Nick
15 years ago

Good lists all. The kids lists and the one I made only had 4 in common and I’m the worse for it. I will say though, that I made a list that I thought would be internationally famous, not people that I thought were the 10 most important.
MLK
Babe Ruth
Jordan
Maryln Monroe
Walt Disney (I can’t believe this didn’t come up on more lists)
Elvis Presley
Ben Franklin
Rosa Parks
John Wayne

And for Sports:

Babe
Jordan
Gretzky
Jim Brown
Joe Montana
Jackie Robinson
Bill Russell
Ali
Tiger Woods
Jim Thorpe

15 years ago

Here’s my most famous Americans in history list:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Tiger Woods
3. MLK
4. Hank Aaron
5. Babe Ruth
6. Edison
7. Rockefeller
8. Carnegie
9. Henry Ford
10. Michael Jackson

Here’s my most famous in sports history list:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Hank Aaron
3. Tiger Woods
4. Babe Ruth
5. Jim Thorpe
6. Muhammad Ali
7. Joe Louis
8. Jack Johnson
9. Joe Montana
10. Julius Erving

15 years ago

Chris, how could I leave out Jackie Robinson?! And Jesse Owens?! You’re right, this is tough!

15 years ago

Lists are tough! But here are my lists (Famous Americans in history and in sports history) in no particular order. It’s hard to not include Presidents, since they have had a major impact, positive and negative, in our countries history. But I’ll follow the rules.

1. Ben Franklin
2. Jonathan Edwards
3. Thomas Edison
4. Henry Ford
5. General Patton
6. MLK, Jr.
7. Elvis Presley
8. Billy Graham
9. Michael Jackson
10. Bill Gates

1. Jim Thorpe
2. Jesse Owens
3. Babe Ruth
4. Jackie Robinson
5. Muhammad Ali
6. Julius Erving
7. Jack Nicklaus
8. Michael Jordan
9. Tiger Woods
10. Dale Earnhardt

15 years ago

Not making a list of my own today but a comment Guys….. Where are the women? Do they have their own list in your book?

15 years ago

Mike, I agree! I left out Elvis, Jim Brown, Magic, Kobe … what about O.J.? And to Letitia’s point, what about Helen Keller or even Pocahontas? Here’s the thing too, in today’s world, one blog post or NBA Playoff broadcast could reach more people than probably the entire United States population during Jim Thorpe’s time.

Mike
15 years ago

I agree that this is tough! I keep changing my list, but here goes (in no particular order):

Americans in history:

Martin Luther King, Jr
Ben Franklin
Henry Ford
Thomas Edison
John D. Rockefeller
Frederick Douglas
Alexander Graham Bell
Elvis Presley
Susan B. Anthony
Thurgood Marshall

Americans in sports:

Jim Thorpe
Jesse Owens
Muhammad Ali
Jackie Robinson
Michael Jordan
Tiger Woods
Babe Ruth
“Babe” Zaharias
Jim Brown
Magic Johnson/Larry Bird

This could lead to endless debate, but it was a fun exercise.